Abstract
Geoff Anders of Leverage and Anna Salamon of CFAR had a conversation on Geoff’s Twitch channel on October 23, triggered by Zoe Curzi’s post about having horrible experiences at Leverage.
Technical issues meant that the Twitch video was mostly lost, and the audio only resurfaced a few days ago, thanks to Lulie.
I thought the conversation was pretty important, so I’m (a) using this post the signal-boost the audio, for people who missed it; and (b) posting a transcript here, along with the (previously unavailable, and important for making sense of the audio) last two hours of chat log.
You can find the full audio here, and video of the first few minutes here. The full audio discusses a bunch of stuff about Leverage’s history; the only part of the stream transcribed below is the Anna/Geoff conversation, which starts about two hours in.
The chat messages I have aren’t timestamped, and sometimes consist of side-conversations that don’t directly connect with what Geoff and Anna are discussing. So I’ve inserted blocks of chat log at what seemed like roughly the right parts of the conversation; but let me know if any are in the wrong place for comprehension, and I’ll move them elsewhere.
- (1:57:57) EARLY EA HISTORY AND EA/LEVERAGE INTERACTIONS […]
Anna Salamon: All right, let’s talk.
Geoff Anders: All right, all right. Yeah, let’s get to it.
Anna Salamon: I hear that the rationality and Leverage communities have some sort of history!
Geoff Anders: That’s right. Okay, so basically, Anna, as I mentioned to you when we chatted about this, I wanted to talk about in general Leverage history, and then there’s a long history with the rationality community, and right now, it seems like there’s… I’d like to understand what happened with the relations, basically.
Like, earlier on, things were substantially more congenial. More communication. There were various types of joint events. Ben,